Did New Testament Writers Say Jesus Was God? – Tovia Singer

…the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord… – (Carmen Christi) Philippians 2:9-11

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19 Comments

  1. Greg says

    we don’t agree on everything, but THAT was funny…

  2. Jean says

    Any chance the debate between singer and Evans will be live streamed via Internet ?

  3. Smack'em Yack'em says

    Greg, why so funny?

  4. Penina says

    In the Scripture done by James Trimm (Hebraic Roots Version Scripture) I am fairly certain there were about 3-4 places in the NT where it said “YHWH is G-d”. I can’t find my list of verses. I’ll look again after Shabbos.

    Not that the NT is an issue for me but I do remember our group talking about that difference in translation from anything they had ever seen before.

  5. Scott says

    Isn’t 1 Timothy 3:16 a NT claim that Jesus was God??? Not that it’s true, but to say that the NT doesn’t claim he’s God I find a little stretching…

    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”

  6. meMoca Guerrero says

    thanks for another excelent program… shabat shalom !!

  7. Darren says

    – So is Jesus the dad, or is he the child, and didn’t he die for the sins of others yet was counted as sinless?

    Deu 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers; every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

    – There cannot be mercy without justice, and there is no justice in the death of an innocent man for another person’s crime.

    Jer 9:24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth, and knoweth Me, that I am Yehovah who exercise mercy, justice, and righteousness, in the earth; for in these things I delight, saith Yehovah.

    Hab 1:4 Therefore the Torah is slacked, and justice doth never go forth; for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore justice goeth forth perverted.

  8. lrraine says

    Finally someone willing to state scripture from the day it was written instead of how is has traditionally be interpreted. This made more sense than anything I have heard in all the arguments from both sides. Thanks you.

  9. Sheryl says

    very good, thank-you!

  10. Cynthia says

    Yeshua was fully God and laid aside His deity to be born of the flesh. He feels as we do, which at times, I do feel that He has forsaken me even as David felt in the psalms at times. And human flesh does not wish to be crucified.

  11. Cynthia says

    I should have said “Yeshua is fully God”

  12. Mary says

    Jono and Rabbi singer,

    Excellent job again!

    I just recvd Rabbi Singer’s books last week and agree with your wife, they are the workbooks that go along with your latest audios! And it’s awesome!

    Sometimes when I read the evidence presented in the books, I am so ashamed I gave myself over to a false god for so long. The books give such a great explanation of where those “ideas” came from and exactly what scripture says, it’s really truth2me!

    It’s been a year and a half on this journey and this short time is so much more meaningful than the 40-something years

  13. Mary says

    Of ?’s being re-directed or just flat out being unanswered. That alone has been such a comfort, thank you!

  14. Don Werner says

    Jesus never claimed to be God, the disciples and early church never thought of him as God. He’s referred to as a man and a prophet. (he even referred to himself as a prophet – Matthew 13:37) He was declared God at the Council of Nicene. That’s when they started editing the scriptures to make it appear the he is God. 1Timothy 3:16 and 1John 5:7 are know to be forged by all scholars – the two verses edited to support the deity of Jesus and the Trinity.

  15. Cynthia says

    If God is Spirit, He can be flesh if He wants to. Nothing to do with trinity.

  16. Cynthia says

    Hi Don Werner. Why would the Council of Nicene do that; and where do you get your “facts”?

  17. Jean says

    Cynthia, check out Bart Ehrman’s excellent book Misquoting Jesus.It addresses the 1 Timothy 3:16 and 1 John 5:7 textual issues. It is a excellent source for the lay person on the study of textual criticism of the NT. This information Don is referring to is common knowledge amongst scholars. Check out some bible commentaries or google it. God bless you in your Bible study.

  18. Cynthia says

    There are many rebuttals to Ehrman by other scholars. If our Teacher is God, we don’t need a man to teach us. Only God knows the Truth about everything. Believing in someone or knowing someone is not the same thing. Many people know Yeshua. I think that is the difference when it comes to our belief about Him.

  19. Bob Morley says

    This was the most information pack podcast you guys have ever done. It is staggering how much research is required to test the things that have been said here, how much background understanding is necessary to make sense about how these beliefs came into being.
    95% of people have no understanding of the effect (or even the exixtance of) people like Marcion or Tertulian.
    I especially enjoyed section which described Tertulian as the one who formalized the idea of a Trinity in response to debate over Jesus’ divinity or lack there of. That is SO huge.

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