How is Bethlehem Connected to the Messiah? – Tovia Singer

And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born. So they said to him, “In Bethlehem of Judea, for thus it is written by the prophet: ‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, Are not the least among the rulers of Judah; For out of you shall come a Ruler Who will shepherd My people Israel.’” – Matthew 2:4-6

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20 Comments

  1. Penina says

    I didn’t realize how anti-Semetic the NT is. Thank all of you for these talks. My eyes have been opened more and more with each broadcast.

  2. servingfaithfully says

    How dare YHVH design a plan where a star moves and moves with a destination in mind. Who does He think He is that we will fall for such foolishness? I mean really, Tovia has caught Him in this ridiculous narrative that so many have fallen for, even those wise men who followed that star. Such a waste of time and a very long trip as well. Tovia is so smart and the world is so lucky that YHVH is not able to outsmart Tovia. (tongue in cheek with a bitter aftertaste)

    This conversation is the height of arrogance and narcissism. Who do you all think you are? Must YHVH cater to your ways of understanding? Must He make His plans make sense to you in your arrogance? Must He bow down to your intelligence and reasoning?

    In case Tovia wants to answer “yes”, I’ll remind him, it is exactly this attitude that keeps him blind. Are we honestly going to believe that the people involved in these stories are so dumb and stupid and easily manipulated that they would fall for a ruse that has managed to survive this many years later? Really? How many ridiculous notions have not survived but this particular one that has changed lives and opened eyes, is simply a foolish notion? Wise men aren’t really that wise? Shaul is not really a brilliant scholar but Tovia, thousands of years later simply reading these stories but not living them, is the true brilliant scholar? I’ve never come across such narcissistic approach to scripture. No wonder………….

  3. jeffdonohew says

    Another great adventure in learning. Thanks Jono,Jason and Tovia.

  4. servingfaithfully says

    Jono, I guess you don’t want to post my comment because it might be true? If you believe it to be false then there is no reason not to post it…you’re guilt free of the accusations. However, if what I said is indeed true, you should be ashamed and I can understand why you would not want to post it unless you humbly acknowledge to your Father that what was said did not honor Him at all but instead honored the deluded thinking of men.

  5. jono vandor says

    G’day Servingfaithfully. The reason your comment had not been posted is because I have just arrived back from a trip to Sydney and I had not had a chance to moderate comments.

  6. servingfaithfully says

    If that is true, I stand corrected. However two other comments who both responded after mine, were posted for days before mine. It doesn’t really matter as long as all words are examined as scripture commands each of us to do. But I believe Tovia is walking a fine line with his disrespect and dishonor of YHVH…..something he would have felt the immediate discipline of had he lived among the Israelites.

  7. jono vandor says

    “If that is true”??? I did approve a couple of comments ahead of yours because those comments were concise and to the point. Your comments, on the other hand, are characteristically unappealing lengthy diatribes of ignorant idiocy. Certainly your recent comment in question was no exception. As such, I had no time to read it until I returned from my trip.

  8. Richard says

    Hmmmmm. When truth hurts bash Rabbi Singer. Tovia shows his knowledge and understanding every time I have heard him. He has been most gracious in the face of rudeness and outright bigotry. We are truly blessed to have Rabbi Singer and Jono. Please ,if you have problems with his or any other’s teaching ,don’t publicly attack their character.

  9. servingfaithfully says

    Since I obviously hit a nerve, it doesn’t quite make sense that you believe my posts to be ignorant idiocy. I guess we’ll see who is bowing the knee and who is thumbing his nose, when Y’shua RETURNS.

  10. Penina says

    I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one. He didn’t do the things that would qualify him to be “HaMoshiach” (as the Messianics love to say) the first time round, I doubt he would do it the second time, IF there is a second time. That’s highly doubtful.

    Just re-read your post – would you really be thumbing your nose at those who didn’t believe in Jesus when “he comes back”? Wow. More Xtian love in action I guess.

  11. servingfaithfully says

    Unless comprehension is challenging, I said when Y’shua returns, men will position themselves exactly as they do on this thread, bowing the knee or thumbing their nose AT HIM. My “love in action” is to tell you the truth, even if I’m the only one and when all that is being said on here is the worship of some blind rabbis. Get in the scriptures yourselves. Just because Tovia or Michael say it, doesn’t make it true…..in fact, they are very very wrong and the Torah proves they are wrong. And before you go and bash me in retaliation, just because I said it, doesn’t make it true either. GO TO THE SCRIPTURES! You are not less qualified to understand than these guys. In fact, I daresay that their arrogance makes them less qualified than others. Bow your knee to YHVH and ask Him for truth. But don’t insist that He do things your way or demand that He reveal truth according to your understanding. You’ve got the position bass ackwards!

  12. jono vandor says

    Servingfaithfully, you echo one of Paul’s heresies. In Philippians 2:10-11 Paul misquotes Isaiah, saying, “at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord”

    Whereas Yehovah says in Isaiah 45:21-25, “there is no other god besides Me, A just God and a Savior; There is none besides Me. “Look to Me, and be saved, All you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. I have sworn by Myself; The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, And shall not return, That to Me every knee shall bow, Every tongue shall take an oath. He shall say, ‘Only through Yehovah I have righteousness and strength. When people come to Him, all their adversaries are put to shame. Through Yehovah all the descendants of Israel shall be justified, and shall glory.’”

  13. Miri~ says

    I have a question about Mary going to the Temple to offer the sacrifice so soon after the birth,
    was that allowed? Could a woman that would be considered unclean in her impurity after giving birth go into the Temple like that?

  14. daniel says

    this impossible star is as incredible as the cloud the led the israel out of egypt

  15. jono vandor says

    Daniel, I don’t think they can be compared. After all, it’s perfectly understandable how the children of Israel was able to follow the pillar of cloud/fire that went before them, it extended from the earth up.

  16. Israel says

    great teaching, thank you Rabbi!

  17. Rhonda Young says

    Why is it that *Gentile* Kings/Astronomers knew that the King of the Jews had been born (by the appearance of the star) and the well-trained Jewish rabbis didn’t? Another teaching that the Gentiles are actually smarter and closer to G-d than the Jews are. It’s another element of anti-semitism.

  18. Darek Jakubowski says

    Thank you for a lots of entreatment ( GPS) and good teaching. 🙂

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