HR ‘The Forgotten Begotten’

Who were the original recipients of the ancient Near East adoption language found in Hebrews 1:5? Jono and Jason go in search of answers. Visit Jason at spiritualbabies.net

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  1. yahuhanan says

    Zek 6:11-13
    11 And take silver and gold, and
    make crowns, and set on the head of
    YAHUSHUA, the son of Yahutsedeq, the high
    priest.12 And speak to him, saying, So says
    YAHUAH of Hosts, saying, Behold!
    The Man whose name is THE
    BRANCH! And He shall spring up out
    of His place, and He shall build the
    sanctuary of YAHUAH.
    13 Even He shall build the sanctuary
    of YAHUAH; and He shall bear the
    majesty, and shall sit and rule on His
    throne. And He shall be a priest on His
    throne; and the counsel of peace shall
    be between the two of them.

  2. jono vandor says

    Thank you for your comment, Yahuhanan. The “branch” is Zerubbable (as is commonly understood), who was a governor appointed by Yah in the building of the Temple together with Joshua the High Priest (see Ezra chapter 3). Perhaps you see a relevance to the episode somehow?

  3. yahuhanan says

    Thank You for Responding to My Comment Jono.

    The Name of the Man with the Crown on His Head, is The Name of the Man that is the BRANCH and the Name used there at Zekaryah 6:11 is Strong’s #H3091
    (yeh-ho-shoo’-ah)

    “The Branch” as Prophesied in Yeshayahu a 11:1 and 4:2-5 is from the Root of Jesse.
    Dawids father.

    11:1
    1 And a Shoot goes out from the stump of Jesse, and a BRANCH will bear fruit out of his roots. 2 And the Spirit of YAHUAH shall rest on Him; He will have the spirit of
    wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and power, the spirit of
    knowledge and of the fear of YAHUAH.
    3 And He is made to breathe in the fear of YAHUAH. But He shall not
    judge by the sight of His eyes, nor decide by the hearing of His ears.
    4 But He shall judge the poor in righteousness, and shall decide rightly
    for the meek of the earth. And He shall strike the earth with the rod of His
    mouth, and He shall cause the wicked to die with the breath of His lip.

    4:2-5
    2 In that day THE BRANCH of YAHUAH will be beautiful and glorious, and the
    fruit of the earth for pride and for glory for the survivors of Israel.
    3 And it shall be, he remaining in Zion, and he who is left in Jerusalem,
    shall be called holy, every one who is written among the living in Jerusalem;
    4 When YAHUAH shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion,
    and the blood of Jerusalem shall have been rinsed away from its midst by a
    spirit of judgment, and by a spirit of burning.
    5 Then YAHUAH will create a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a
    flaming fire by night, over all the site of Mount Zion, and over her
    assemblies; for over all the glory will be a canopy.

    You can see Clearly this Prophesy Has Not come to Pass.

    But I will Not Force My interpretation of these Verses on Anyone. Let the Reader decide.

    As far as the Relevance?

    Yahuhanan (John) 2:19
    19 Yahushua said to them, tear down this sanctuary, and in three days I will raise it up.
    20 Then the Jews said, This sanctuary was forty six years being built, and do You raise it up in three days? 21 But He spoke about the sanctuary of His body.

    also see Mattithyahu (Mathew) 26:61 and 27:40

  4. sylvia van der voort says

    I listern to the Pearls of the Torah, I enjoy the program, and thanks you all for the real translation we get from all of you.

  5. jono vandor says

    Haggai 1:1, Ezra 2:2, & Zechariah 3:1 …Jeshua/Joshua = same guy (not Jesus, who was born five centuries later). The “branch” or “shoot” was with Jeshua/Joshua (so he wasn’t Jesus either, sorry) and is widely recognized to be Zerubbable whose name , by the way, means “sown or seed of Babylon” yet he would branch out from the place where he is and he shall build the Temple of Yehovah ( Zechariah 6:12).

  6. yahuhanan says

    Like I said I will Not Force My interpretation of these Verses on Anyone. Let the Reader decide…

  7. yahuhanan says

    Your interpretation would make a little more sense if Zerubbable was the one wearing the crowns at Zekarya 6-11 but he clearly is Not… Shalom

  8. yahuhanan says

    Mishley (Proverbs) 30:3
    4 Who has gone up to Heaven, and come down? Who has gathered the
    wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in His garments? Who has
    made all the ends of the earth to rise? What is His name, and what is His
    SON”S NAME? Surely you know.

    Dibrey Ha’Yamin 1 (1 Chronicles) 17:11-17
    11 and it shall be, when your days have been fulfilled to go away with
    your fathers, that I shall raise up your seed after you, who shall be of your
    SONS, and I shall establish his kingdom.12 He shall build a house for Me, and
    I shall establish his throne FOREVER;13 I shall become a Father to him,
    and he shall become a SON to Me; and I will not take My mercy away from
    him, as I took it away from him who was before you;14 and I will establish Him in My
    house and in My kingdom FOREVER; and his throne shall be made to stand
    FOREVER 15 According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so Nathan
    spoke to David.

  9. jono vandor says

    …Thus says Yehovah, “Israel is My son, My firstborn.” Exodus 4:22

  10. yahuhanan says

    at Shemoth (Exodus) 4:22 it is the tribes of Israel spoken of as Yacob is Not alive at this Time.

    Zerubbable, Solomon, Nor Israel fit the Prophesies and since the Mashiah is from Davids Line it is Not David Himself.

    Mikah 5:2-4
    2 And you, Bethlehem Ephratah,being least among the thousands of
    Judah, out of you He shall come forth to Me to become One ruling in Israel;and His goings forth have been from of old, from the days of eternity.
    3 Therefore, He will give them over until the time the one giving birth has
    given birth. Then the rest of His brothers shall return to the sons of
    Israel.4 And He shall stand and pasture us in the strength of YAHUAH, in the
    majesty of the Name of YAHUAH His Elohim. And they shall dwell securely,
    for now He is great to the ends of the earth.

    Daniel:7:13-14
    13 I was looking in the night visions. And behold! One like the Son of Man
    came with the clouds of the heavens.And He came to the Ancient of Days.
    And they brought Him near before Him.14 And dominion was given to Him,
    and glory, and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages
    should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion which shall not
    pass away, and His kingdom that which shall not be destroyed

  11. says

    Just thinking about the last thoughts in this video (great study, by the way!)
    Isn’t the genealogy of Yeshua in Matthew through the line of Mary, and the Joseph listed there is her father and not her husband? There are clearly two different Josephs connected to Mary in both the genealogies of Matthew and Luke. Matthew 1:16 says Joseph (the son of Jacob) was the “man” of Mary and with the count of the generations, she would have to be the offspring of that Joseph, the son of Jacob. And Luke gives the line of Joseph, son of Eli – this would be Mary’s betrothed husband. Luke 3:23 says Yeshua is the supposed son of Joseph, son of Eli. Is there another explanation than this?

  12. D'Aun Best says

    You are right that Acts 4:25,26 is said through the mouth of David. The company is quoting Psalm 2. Then the company gives the interpretation of Psalm 2 by stating, “for of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together” Acts 4:27. “For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done” Acts 4:28. The company is saying Yeshua is the subject of Psalm 2. Shalom

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